The Liquidity Trap of the 1930s and Its Relevance Today
I am no expert on the Great Depression, but I have read about it and I agree with the author of the article from Market Watch that things are setting up like the 1930s (see previous post). In addition it is hard to tell what will happen because this is a dynamic (as opposed to linear) process, but it is time to start being aware of the history of Great Depression. Text in bold is my emphasis.
We learned this in the 1930s, when, after first shrinking the money supply enough to pull prices down by about 25%, the Federal Reserve of that era tried to force-feed liquidity into the economy with the hopes of pushing it out of its slump.
It didn't work. Lenders were reluctant to lend, while potential borrowers did not want to borrow.
Banks were struggling under mountains of loans gone sour and were in no frame of mind to throw good money after bad. For their part, most firms were not willing to assume new debts, since falling sales and earnings led them to conclude that there was little productive use they could make out of these borrowed funds.
The great economist John Maynard Keynes dubbed this phenomenon a "liquidity trap." It was perhaps the first realization that the Fed's powers were not as great as previously thought. (If you think about it, this is the same thing that is keeping Japan down for the last 15 years.)
This was most disconcerting, since the main reason behind the creation of the Fed back in 1913 was to ensure that panics, such as the one in 1907 that was caused by insufficient liquidity in the economy, could be nipped in the bud - if not prevented altogether by a generous dollop of liquidity from the central bank.
The Panic of 1907, like others before it, led to a recession. The liquidity trap of the 1930s was part and parcel of what came to be known as the Great Depression.
Today there are some similarities to the liquidity trap of the 1930s. The credit crunch is clearly one of them. No matter what the Fed does on Tuesday, it will not be able to thaw out the frosty financial markets.
This is because the markets lack confidence. As I wrote two weeks ago, "fear, and not a lack of liquidity, is what's freezing up the credit markets ... and ... it's going to take a lot more than infusions of liquidity to thaw them."
You know that fear is stronger than greed these days when banks refuse to lend to each other - never mind to businesses or to consumers.
A good indication of this is the three-month LIBOR spread against comparable maturity Treasuries. It's over 200 basis points (2 percentage points) today versus an average of about 25 bps between 2003 and this past spring.
What's driving this fear is uncertainty over the underlying value of securities backed by home mortgages.
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's offer to freeze interest rates for as long as five years for some subprime borrowers raises more questions than it answers - not the least of which is setting a precedent of government intervention changing the rules of the game for investors.
The value of these mortgage-backed securities will also be determined by what happens to housing prices, and as I wrote last week, nationally, median home prices will have to fall at least another 20% before families can afford to buy.
There's little the Fed can do at this point other than injecting liquidity to push rates lower while persuading lenders to make credit more readily available.
However at some point the Fed will have to draw the line, lest it create not only a new moral hazard, but the groundwork for a new round of inflation as well.
Tuesday, December 11, 2007
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A man named Harry Dent said we would start a deflationary Depression cycle sometime around 2008-2009. His thoughts were for a baby boomer stock run up. Same result different asset class. I think we would have been better off with a stock bubble though. Housing busts drag forever and effect more people.
The Fed was not created to hold up a solvency crisis, which the Depression actually was. It was created to help solvent banks survive panic induced runs on their deposits.
Now we are running into a solvency crisis once again, like in the S&L crisis. The Fed can't do much about that. Bank failures are unavoidable when the problem is real insolvency rather than a loss of liquidity.
The loss of liquidity that is occurring at the moment is caused by actual defaults spiking up. The Fed can not do much about that. They can not engineer pay raises for insolvent option-ARM borrowers.
The situation is now different to the 1930's as well as Japan in the 1990's, because the US now has high levels of external debt and an enormous current account deficit. The current account deficit is big enough in dollars, but when it is measured in labor and natural resources, it is astronomical. Hence the natural trajectory of the US dollar.
The credit crash will probably produce a forced balancing of the current account and radically restrict further accumulation of foreign debt. It's time to start paying it back, and that would be very painful.
So the natural course of events is a US default on foreign debt, which is already in progress for foreign owned MBS and derivatives thereof, and a major collapse of intercontinental trade. To prevent that, the US public would have to be turned into debt slaves in service of export industries.
Or maybe the Chinese will turn their US debt holdings into actual ownership of US resources, unless the US Congress will opt for complete isolation instead.
In time, the living standards of people in import- and export-dependent countries will come to a balance, and normal trade relationships can be established again.
Well that means the Chinese will begin living like us and spending like us. Americans will begin living like they did (poor) because we have lived like us....
Anonymous said...
csf,
why not just subsidize the rates of interest to the genesis of this collaspe.
ISOLATE MORTGAGE RATES AND "NEW DEAL FOR ALL".
HAVE GOV. GUARENTEE LOANS (LIKE FHA NOW) ABSORB 200 BASIS POINTS FOR ALL NEW LOANS.
THE CHEAPEST AND MOST CONTROLABLE WAY OUT!
PULLS IN NEW PURCHASES IN VOLUME,
ALLOWS REFIS TO VIRTUALLY EVERYONE
WITH GOOD STANDING.
REAL AND PERCIEVED VALUE IMMEDIATLY
PROPS REAL ESTATE, NEW ABS HAVE BITE AND ARE VIEWED IN PIPLINE BY INVESTORS. GOOD POOLS COMING DOWN PIPE INSPIRE INVESTOR CONFIDENCE ETC,.ETC,. (THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON BUT YOU GET THE IDEA)
December 11, 2007 7:26 PM
Anonymous said...
YOU MEAN 4% MORTGAGE RATES AND NOT TRY TO DRAG THE WHOLE ECONOMY DOWN WITH FED CUTS. RIGHT?
December 11, 2007 7:29 PM
Anonymous said...
HOW MANY PURCHASERS COME IN PLAY WITH A FIXED RATE OF 4%?? EVERYONE.
HOW MUCH WOULD THAT SIGNAL A BOTTOM FOR REAL ESTATE? ALOT!
WHEN WOULD VALUES TURN AROUND? SOON!
COULD YOU REALLY ACTUALLY START A HUGE RALLY IN REAL ESTATE THAT COULD ACTUALLY GET OUT OF HAND?
IF YOU WANTED!
PEOPLE WITH EXISTING MORTGAGES TAKE
FULL ADVANTAGE OF RATES AND FIRM REAL ESTATE MARKET TO REFI TO LOWER RATES, GET OUT OF ARMS,AND MAYBE EVEN CASH OUT A LITTLE. BAD FOR THE ECONOMY?
NOPE!
SO UNPEG JUST THE MORTGAGE RATES?
YEP!
December 11, 2007 7:39 PM
Anonymous said...
A SIV FULL OF ABS'S THAT ARE GOVERNMENT GUARANTEED?
COUNT ME IN!
REGULATED TO A RATIONAL DEGREE OF LEVERAGING, THIS MIGHT WORK.
COULD ANYONE TURN THESE DOWN?
HARDLY!
WOULD THIS CREATE A LITTLE CONFINDENCE IN THE EQUITY MARKETS AND HAVE THEM BIDDING UP THESE TO REPLACE THOSE?
QUICKLY!
HOW FAST WOULD WALL STREET FAST FORWARD THE RESULTS AND TURN THEM INTO RALLIES BASED ON FUTURE EARNINGS.
EXTREMLY FAST.
December 11, 2007 7:45 PM
Anonymous said...
HOW MUCH OF PRICE TAG???
MAYBE 500BN.THE GOV WILL HAVE THE STEERING WHEEL!
A LOT LESS THAN 2.5 TRILLION IN MARKET DEVALUATION, TAX REVENUES, BK, CHAOS AND MISGUIDED ATTEMPTS TO MAKE THE U.S. A 2ND RATE FINANCIAL POWER, TAKEN DOWN BY ............SUBPRIME MORTGAGES!!!
SOUNDS CHEAP TO ME.
THERES ALOT MORE BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,,IM DONE.
December 11, 2007 7:58 PM
Anonymous said...
No. Keep going. You are just getting warmed up. Please lose the caps though.
December 12, 2007 1:11 AM
Anonymous said...
BEFORE WE GO ON, CAN YOU SEE ANY "HOLES" IS THIS PROPOSTION TO THIS POINT???
CFC...........CAN YOU
(SORRY ABOUT
Caps boy - a lot of holes.
How in the world will you get investors to buy MBS without higher rates to compensate for risk, for just one that punctures a gaping hole in your balloon.
Take fannie, freddie, for this period ,from government implied backing to "full guarantee".
(now you have a virtual treasury grade investment)
No need for risk premium.
Thats one way.
Notice I"m not using all caps,
don't call me, Caps Boy.
You sound bright and knowlegabe, if this theory had legs, how would you get mortgage rates reduced to the point it would turn around?
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